Vancouver YSA AGM - 2nd MSL Club?

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  1. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    Playing devils advocate here. Sometimes the competition at NAP is good for the players. I have seen several go from the bench on one team to starter on another. Being in this fishbowl allows for other opportunities. And yes I know there are clubs outside of Newton, but this is much more greographically c9nvenient.
     
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    I guess it all depends on what you are after or what the goal is. From a recreational perspective there is nothing unusual about what goes on in Newton. From a developmental perspective with s goal of improving soccer in Canada and developing national players almost everything at Newton is wrong. And it's not just Newton the recreational mindset exists everywhere.
    I would argue recreational vs development and understanding the goal is the main issue regarding soccer development in Canada.
     
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    I noticed on the FVYSC website that they were proud to announce a 2nd Metro Team for u13 Boys and Girls. I take this to mean they have added one more team with Langley FC joining Abby/Aldergrove and Chilliwack giving more kids a chance.

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    Langley United Joins Fraser Valley Selects Program
    Langley United Soccer Association is proud to announce that it has joined the Fraser Valley Selects Metro partnership program. The Fraser Valley has seen enrollment numbers continue to grow rapidly across our district. With LUSA joining the FV Selects, there will be greater access to upper levels of play for youth in our District by giving the players the opportunity to be selected for a Metro team based in the community that they live in. The addition of two new FV Selects teams (U13 boys and U13 girls) will give opportunity for players wishing to play at the MSL level to play closer to their home.

    Langley United’s embrace of the FV Selects partnership program will include the contribution of coaches and fields for the expansion teams. LUSA’s Technical Director Mark Parker will work alongside TDs Ian Knight and Glenn Wilson to oversee implementation of the FV Selects Program.

    This is a huge leap forward for soccer in our district. Langley United is proud to contribute to even greater access to the Fraser Valley Metro Selects program and is looking forward to hosting the first such FV Metro evaluations in Langley within the coming weeks.
     
  4. TKBC

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    finally everyone working together!!

    So My guess is they will have an East FVS and a West FVS? One based on Langley/Aldergrove, one based in Chwk/Abby - and of course if you want you can try out for either!
     
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    TKBC Established Member

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    That said....hopefully the district can put together teams that improve the overall development of players in the district, and thus improve competition in MSL as a whole.
     
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    I would hope that is the reason. I want those kids who aspire to play high level have a chance to play with others of like skill. Like much of the previous posts in this thread the theory that 2 MLS teams will weaken the pool has yet to be seen. With this move I would suggest that numbers wise each MLS team should be fairly competitive. BCSPL still can strive to be the top level whereas MLS can focus on developing more youth to move up to the ranks as attrition from kids finding other sports, school or life in general get in the way of staying with the BCSPL.

    I must admit I am new to all of these different levels of league play, again so long as kids benefit I am all for it.
     
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    I think this move also ,means Langley United Supporting the FV BSCPL rather than Surrey United.
     
  8. TKBC

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    Actually, hadn't thought of that, but yes most likely since of course FVS supports FVP.
     
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    I am of the same position. I am concerned that too many MSL teams weakens the league competition (for which some might consider there to be plenty of evidence) this may well be best. Because I know there are kids from Chilliwack (and likely Langley too...and I assume Abbotsford) who don't join because of the commuting involved. Having two "more local" MSL clubs feeding into the FVP program may well be a fantastic outcome! Here's hoping! I am sure they've already lined-up a number of quality coaches as well. I can assure you there are coaches as well who haven't signed up for the same reason - commute/time.
     
  10. Krutov

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    I am a little confused as to how this will improve the quality of the FV teams. Up to this point there have been very few FV teams that have been very competitive on the boys side of the Selects program partially due to the lack of support from the Langley teams. The girls have done better but I believe the Langley girls supported the FV program a bit more but I could be wrong on this.

    I would like to know if this is just a way to have Langley have their own Select teams. If this further reduces the few Langley players that are playing selects for the FV program then that will only serve to weaken what is now existing and that product is not really competitive in most age groups.

    I can see this happening for a couple of years and then the weaker of the FV Select teams (probably the "East") will end up getting removed from the league.

    My question is why have Langley boys not really supported the FV selects program fro the past 4 years? It would make sense to me that they should be sending players to strengthen the weaker teams that exist and see if that can be competitive before adding.

    Maybe I am interpreting this announcement wrong but this is the only info out there.
     
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    I can't say specifically - but folding LUYSA into the FVS/P programs will improve them. LUYSA is of course an important cog in the FV puzzle. The district requires unity to thrive, and grow back into what it was in the 90's and 2000's (ie, very strong Abbotsford teams, and a growing Langley program at the time). Unity can only benefit the district not harm it.

    I believe having what is likely to be an East and a West program will actually attract more players. Right now the FVS teams are not going to attract Langley players as they are based in Chwk/Abby, and the FVP teams aren't going to attract as many Abby and Chwk players as they might because they are based in Langley. Also LUYSA has been filtering it's players to Surrey Utd in BCSPL, so this should now become a filter to FVP thus strengthening them.

    But again, that's conjecture. Unity is not, and unity is always beneficial. (ps-I have no involvement in FVS or FVP directly so my saying this is not biased or with any other agenda in mind!).

    Why hasn't LUYSA supported FVS/P in the past 4 years? Ask your club TD/directors and maybe they'll give you some info, maybe they won't. Whatever has happened in the past 4 years means nothing now though - let's look forward and grow unification and collaboration!
     
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    Simple. The infighting between the two langley clubs was the roadblock.
     
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    Bang on.
     
  14. Krutov

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    So not to get too involved in what is best for development of soccer in the lower mainland the club that did not support their district get's their own Select program in the end.
     
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    LUYSA isn't getting it's own program. It's feeding into FVS.
     

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