Surrey Tigers FC

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  1. gooner

    gooner New Member

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    I have a question:

    1. Does Surrey Tigers have Metro spots for next year?
    2. And if not what happens to their existing teams that played?
     
  2. LFC

    LFC Active Member

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    Unless Surrey Tigers is a new club in Surrey , the only club with a similar name is BC TIGERS based at Tom Binnie Athletic park in North Surrey
     
  3. gooner

    gooner New Member

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    o yes sorry my mistake I was meaning to say BC TIGERS.
     
  4. TKBC

    TKBC Established Member

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    Your best bet would be to email the Surrey Metro District board as they decide which clubs get put forward to MSL from their district.
    Welcome to SMSA

    But to answer #2 - if they don't have a spot the kids who were on their teams previously would of course be able to trial for any other club in Surrey (or another district if they saw fit). It's possible those teams could, as a whole, drop down to Division 1.
     
  5. avid soccer player

    avid soccer player New Member

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    apparently BC tigers has total 6 metro teams out of which 2 are new teams (U13 age group first yr)
    anyone knows what is the criteria at smsa to award a new club(1st yr ) that many metro spots
    or did the ex chair award his own club metro spots prior to his departure??
     
  6. gooner

    gooner New Member

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    just confirmed they do not!
     
  7. TKBC

    TKBC Established Member

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    That's a good question. Probably every district has slightly different criteria. As a non-Surrey soccer-involved guy, I'd suggest that Surrey should have 4 MSL clubs based on the number of players, all feeding ideally into SU BCSPL (and other BCSPL if they can't get on the SU BCSPL roster). Keeping in mind that kids from White Rock, Delta, Langley etc will be looking at getting onto the various Surrey MSL and BCSPL rosters too.
     
  8. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    Does smsa still exist? Isnt it south fraser district now?
     
  9. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    Since SUS and COASTAL are in the same district I would encourage the clubs to create an agreement with either of those clubs. Possibly even Langley.
     
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    TKBC Established Member

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  12. TKBC

    TKBC Established Member

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    I agree. A unified Fraser Valley is best for the FV and should improve both the MSL and BCSPL. Once upon a time Langley and Abbotsford regularly fielded very strong teams. Chilliwack is always improving (including sending two kids to Whitecaps residency this year - and a couple in recent years) and will contribute strong players...it sounds like there will be a East FV Selects and a West FV Selects - though I saw LUYSA kids trialing for MSL in Chilliwack, so I don't know how year 1 will look. But it's good news, I agree.

    Long may it continue, and the animosity be forgotten.
     
  13. 4_the_kids

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    SMSA is now a member/part of South Fraser DIstrict , please reference http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0115/7055/SFDA_MSL_Overview_2017.pdf
    and http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0115/7058/SFDA_MSL_Application_Process_2017.pdf for your answer.
    In short South Fraser District Association (SFDA) is adapting a district metro select program and will assign each year four (4) U13 Metro select teams;  Two (2) to member clubs and two (2) to the regional High Performance Soccer League (BCSPL) franchises.
    So Surrey Guildford and Delta Coastal Selects are guaranteed Metro teams , two other teams will be awarded to the remaining clubs, the clubs are chosen at the U13 year and will be the host club through U18
    I am not sure how this affects existing teams
     
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  14. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    No club should get franchises by default. All four teams should be selected using the same process.
     
  15. TKBC

    TKBC Established Member

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    The BCSPL franchises will have all the criteria in place to meet the standards. I suspect the other applicants for the remaining two spots will have to show they can meet those standards.

    Surrey/Delta having 4 is a good plan. But, 5 may have been more reasonable considering the size and proven ability within the two combined districts...?
     
  16. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    They may have the standards for bcspl but it does nothing to encourage district wide support for bcspl. Why would any club based in newton want to support these clubs who are in direct competition with them? And players playing for those metro teams getting a better look when it comes to filling bcspl roster spots.

    These 2 clubs should have to prove they have metro level talent within their club if they want the spot. It is providing an unfair advantage to clubs who are generally not strong at metro and has taken away the opportunity for 2 metro spots from other clubs that may be more deserving. Not to mention these two clubs getting these bcspl franchises while a very strong player base in newton does not have one.

    Want to be fair and impartial? Let the district run all 4 teams with all of the spots being chosen by an outside comittee.
     
  17. 4_the_kids

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    In my opinion the intent is to ensure the district metro select program is supporting the BCSPL teams.
    This is all player centered, about the development and pathway of the players.
    Why would a Newton based club want to support these clubs who in direct competition This statement is in its self part of the issue.
    No club is in competition with another if the goal is player development and not bragging rights of some meaningless trophy.
    Both Surrey/ Guildford and Delta Select are joint programs designed to be direct feeders to BCSPL , if they are not guaranteed teams the feeder system in theroy ends.
    The Newton teams need to learn to work together and show a willingness to support the BCSPL - my opinion , i am not a member of any district board.. Van United and Surrey youth recent announcement of a a joint collaboration for metro is a example of working together, If only BC Tigers and CCB could do the same..
     
  18. easoccer

    easoccer Established Member

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    If you want a fair and transparent process then all clubs should follow the same guidlines to obtain metro teams.

    This will allow kids from different clubs to reach bcspl if the ability is there.

    Providing a direct pathway for 2 clubs in a large district is not fair at all. Those kids will be the 1st to get called up, the 1st to be selected. It will not be a fair and unbiased system at all.

    If you want fair then bcspl and metro teams should be selected by someone not directly involved with the teams.

    But hey, if they want to have a watered down msl league and an overpowered d1 division then go for it.
     
  19. TKBC

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    Did I say anywhere in my post that Newton clubs should "support" BCSPL clubs? No. I said they should aim for the same standards to give themselves a better shot at getting a MSL spot by the Delta-Surrey district board.
     
  20. TKBC

    TKBC Established Member

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    Also, I think all 6 LM BCSPL franchises should have a MSL spot. In this province we need a unified and clear pathway. That's surely the best way, currently, to promote such an ideal. All the clubs should be striving for the same high standards.
     

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